aight well im thinking of build a computer here soon. i think i have a case picked out already.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021

just not sure about everything else. i know most of you know way more about this stuff than i do. so that is why i ask for your help.

i want to spend around 1,000-1,500 on this one.

the electricity at my house is out right now so im on my grandma's pos.

i want around .75-1tb of hd space on this one.

now i leave you to go and help me find some really nice stuff for me :D . thanks friends.

Heres the rig I just bought and am currently using...

1 Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
$84.99

1 SAPPHIRE 100186L Radeon X1950XT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 VIVO HDCP Video Card - Retail
$199.99
Subtotal: $284.98

Shipping: $6.13
$291.11

# APEVIA X-GEAR (BLACK) MID TOWER W/420W ATX POWER SUPPLY 4x5.25" 2x3.5" 4x3.5"(hidden) W/ SEE THROUGH SIDE WINDOW,FRONT USB CONNECTOR & 80mm CASE FAN x 212" GREEN COLD CATHOLD LIGHT
# EXTRA 80mm FAN(BLACK)
$46.95 $46.95

LG GSA-H42N BLACK 18X DVD RW DRIVE W/SW (Retail)EXT. ENCLOSURE OPTIONS
$33.90 $33.90

MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP PROFESSIONAL W/SP2 #E85-04135 (DSP/OEM) $131.90 $131.90

GIGABYTE GA-965P-DQ6 INTEL 965 CHIPSET SERIAL ATA300 ATX FORM FACTOR 2xPCI-E(X16)/3xPCI-E(X1)/2xPCI/4xDDR2 W/SATA RAID,LAN(Gb),1394,USB 2.0 & AUDIO (CPU TYPE:INTEL - SOCKET 775)CORE 2 DUO E6300 1.86G (1066Mhz)
# KINGSTON 2GB DDR2 667
# (1GB x 2)

$498.57

Sub-Total $711.32
Shipping & Handling Fee $68.78
Order Total 780.1

GRAND TOTAL: $1071

I also got a 600 watt Ultra Xfinity ATX power supply instead of the 420...

sounds pretty nice. i kinda want something like al's new rig.

cmon people i know you can spare a little time to help me out :D .

at least 2 gigs of ram....at least a 600 watt power supply...thats all i got for you.

atleast flitch has my back on this one. thx for the help.

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with 12X DVD-RAM write and LightScribe Technology Black E-IDE/ATAPI Model LH-20A1H-185 - OEM
Item #: N82E16827106055
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$34.99



Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811129021
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$139.99



Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136073
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$249.98
($124.99 each)



EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814130082
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$279.99



Antec True Power Trio TP3-650 ATX12V 650W Power Supply with Three 12V Rails - Retail
Item #: N82E16817371001
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$129.99



G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231098
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$40.00 Instant
$279.98
$199.98
($99.99 each)



EVGA 122-CK-NF68-TR LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813188010
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$229.99



Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6600 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115003
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy

$230.00




Subtotal: $1,494.91



This setup will scream.

that setup sounds ****in awesome martin.

I am not sure did you noticed It has two 500GB drives and two 2x1GB memory do total is 4GB.

I am not sure did you noticed It has two 500GB drives and two 2x1GB memory do total is 4GB.
yea i noticed that. its pretty tight.

Martin's machine is what I was going to post. That machine would be able to do almost anything at an incredible framerate, not to mention the power of the e6600 processor.

I have a question, where the **** is everyone?

Weird, and where the hell is the post I posted here this morning?

I have the same power supply and case. The case is nice and quiet even with a couple of extra fans installed. The blue leds are a novelty as is the see through side-window.

Depending on how many drives you install the second drive fan will probably have to be removed as it gets pretty damn close to the gfx card. The case is nicely constructed and finished inside as Antec cases generally are. It's one of the new designs where the PS is mounted on the bottom of the case which can be a pain depending on where certain connections are on the mobo. The huge 120cm fan on the top is sweet and with carefull positioning of the CPU cooler you can have the hot air blown directly towards it. There's also a fan mounting on the plexiglass window directly over where the GFX card is, this fan you have to have blowing out so hot air around the GFX card is removed to the surroundings. I have all fans switched to low settings which helps to keep the case quiet. Idle temps for the cpu are 29C and system at 34C (I have a really nice Rosewill tower on my CPU) and generally this temp doesn't really increase even after playing games for a few hours. Everything is running stock at the moment since I haven't really felt a need to overclock it at the moment since all my games play really well on highest detail settings and modest resolution (1600x1200).

My build uses the E6400 which has been known to overclock very and very often reaches over 3ghz on air cooling. I only have 2gb of RAM, and even with Vista 64-bit with Aero effects enabled it's still running smooth. Recording while playing Source, I usually get above 70fps on all maps even with HDR enabled. Vista drivers are a little sketchy for nVidia but they are slowly getting better. There are still some problems with OpenGL based games like Doom3 but HL2 runs just fine.

now i just have to hope my dad actually is going to pay for a new comp like he said he would for me when i move out of the house. plus im probably getting a new job here soon so it shouldnt take me too long to getmoney for this if he bails out onme. thx much for the help friends.

So did you order any of the parts yet?

So did you order any of the parts yet?
not yet... give me time im still poor atm and my dad is supposed to be getting alot of money from his old job from back pay or something. he said he was going to pay for most of it so im kinda waiting on him.

i have a question about vista and Nvidia drivers.

what ive been hearing is that the Nvidia vid cards dont work nearly as well as the ati drivers with vista 64bit atm. so should i go with ati or just dont worry about what others say and get the Nvidia? I dont care what kind i get as long as it runs well with vista 64bit and am going to have little to no problems with it.

ewwww visat...

If you have deep pockets, go with Nvidia. Otherwise, ATI.

aight i was talking with one of my friends and he said not to even worry about a x10 vid card and just go with an x9 ati vid card and save my money for now and wait till ati and nvidia have the bugs fixed out of their x10 vid cards.

I went with an 8800gts just because of it's power. At the time it was almost better than two ati 1950 in xfire mode and I think better than 2x 7900s.

It runs all my games fine. There was a slight issue before with some distance texturing in CS:S but that's fixed now and also some slight glitching in GW but that's also fixed.

running CS:S 16x12 with all the bells and whistles on and it stays pretty solid at 85fps (monitor refresh is at 85). I do have HDR turned off at the moment for league play but even with it on the frames were nice and solid. If anything the biggest difference is the OS. Vista drivers for any card are gonna have some problems but they're getting worked out.

The obvious answer would be to have dual boot, win xp for gaming, and vista for other stuff. To be honest I don't have any problems just running everything in vista.

aight i was talking with one of my friends and he said not to even worry about a x10 vid card and just go with an x9 ati vid card and save my money for now and wait till ati and nvidia have the bugs fixed out of their x10 vid cards.

Your friend is wrong, get directx 10 video card not directx 9.

aight well my dad should be getting the money soon. so i should be ordering all the parts soon enough. god i cant wait for this thing. going to ****in kick ass

I would get a dx10 card. I was talking to Tom and I know he recommends just getting a dx9 card but then again he upgrades all the time. If you're more like me and don't upgrade every few months and tend to keep the same rig for a couple of years it makes more sense to get a dx10 card now for future games. The nVidia 8800 cards are monsters and my GTS (320mb ram) is fine for everything I've thrown at it. Admittedly I don't run at insane resolutions but I do have all the eye candy turned on and the frames are smooth. In addition I also have a spare x16 PCI-E slot in case I want to SLI it in future (if you get the Antec True Power you'll have an extra power lead for a second card so you'll be future-proofed if you want to SLI).

kk i believe this is the setup im going to be getting when i do get this computer. i took out one of the 500gb hd because i can always buy that later by myself or just get an external hd.

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with 12X DVD-RAM write and LightScribe Technology Black E-IDE/ATAPI Model LH-20A1H-185 - OEM
Item #: N82E16827106055
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$34.99


Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811129021
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$139.99

the case comes with a combo option for a power supply and so does the vid card. are the ones in the combos better than the one i have right now?


Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136073
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$124.99


EVGA 640-P2-N821-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail
Item#:N82E16814130071
Customer Choice - BronzeLast Month's Winner of Customer Choice Award - Video Cards
Return for refund within: 30 days
$349.99

if this card isnt really worth the extra money let me know and i will change back to the other and spend the money on a different item.
Item # for other vid card Item #: N82E16814130082


G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231098
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$40.00 Instant
$279.98
$199.98
($99.99 each)


EVGA 122-CK-NF68-TR LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813188010
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$229.99


ntel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6600 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115003
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy

$230.00


Total= 1,309.93

that gives me the extra money to get Vista 64bit for the computer and maybe a monitor if my dad is feeling nice lol.

also i was wondering about a sound card. is a sound card needed? i want good quality sound while playing games and while watching movies. so if i need one which one should i get?

let me know what you think.

aight talking with damage (one of my clanmates and guildmates) is really telling me to go x9 video card and if im going to get one im going to go with

SAPPHIRE 100185L Radeon X1950XT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 VIVO HDCP Video Card - Retail
Item#:N82E16814102082
Standard Return Policy

forgot to add the power supply in my other post. i knew i was missing something.


Antec True Power Trio TP3-650 ATX12V 650W Power Supply with Three 12V Rails - Retail
Item #: N82E16817371001
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$129.99

$1439.92 is the new total lol

this is also a dif power supply that ima get intstead of that one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817189008

not being able to edit is lame after 30 min...

i would rather go with ati if im going x10 because they are supposed to perform much better, but x10 cards still have bugs in them so im not sure if i wanna spend 50 to 100 dollars more on a dx10 card when i could get a really nice x9 card and sell it on ebay later and buy a x10 card when they have little to no bugs at all.

aight im going to make this next post nice and clean so i dont go confusing everyone.

DVD-RW
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with 12X DVD-RAM write and LightScribe Technology Black E-IDE/ATAPI Model LH-20A1H-185 - OEM
Item #: N82E16827106055
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$34.99

Case
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811129021
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$139.99

Power Supply
XCLIO GREATPOWER X14S4P4 650W ATX12V 650W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CUL, TUV, CB, VDE, FIMKO, DEMKO, NEMKO, SEMKO - Retail
Item#:N82E16817189008
Original Price: $149.99
You Save: $20.00
$129.99

or

COOLMAX CUG-700B ATX 12V( V.2.2) 700W Power Supply 115/230 V - Retail
Item#:N82E16817159058
Price is a combo with the case
Original price: $279.98
Discount: -$40.00
Combo Price: $239.98

HD
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136073
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$124.99

Video Cards
I didnt look into any of the x10 cards so if i would go with ati ima have to look into it more lol. from reading about the x10 cards ati performs alot better from what reviews have said.

EVGA 640-P2-N821-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail
Item#:N82E16814130071
Customer Choice - BronzeLast Month's Winner of Customer Choice Award - Video Cards
Return for refund within: 30 days
$349.99

or

SAPPHIRE 100185L Radeon X1950XT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 VIVO HDCP Video Card - Retail
Item#:N82E16814102082
Standard Return Policy
$239.99

or

EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR GeForce 8800GTS 320MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814130082
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$279.99

Memory
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231098
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$40.00 Instant
$279.98
$199.98
($99.99 each)

Motherboard
Depending on what card i get should i get a dif memory card? if so let me know what you think i should get.

EVGA 122-CK-NF68-TR LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813188010
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$229.99

Processor
ntel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6600 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115003
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy

$230.00


aight not adding up a total since i dont know what im getting. this should be much easier to follow than all the messy shit i did earlier.

go with NVidia not ATI

go with NVidia not ATI
ive never had an ati card before so i kinda want to try one out. if i dont like it in the 30 days i have it i can always return it for my money back. i have hated the latest nvidia divers so im kinda looking for a change.

as for the power supply and the vid cards, which ones should i get. i still need a little more input :D

Aight im gunna add something here that ima get instead of what i previously had up there.

Case
XCLIO Windtunnel Fully Black Finish 1.0 mm SECC Chassis ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item#:N82E16811103011
Original Price: $129.99
You Save: $5.00
$124.99

Motherboard
ABIT AW9D-MAX LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item#:N82E16813127011
Original Price: $219.99
You Save: $10.00
$209.99

Ram
OCZ ATI CrossFire 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
Item#:N82E16820227169
$139.99
($99.99 after $40.00 Mail-In Rebate)
and im probably only going to get 2gb for now. ill buy some more in the future when games require more.

Video Card
SAPPHIRE 100201 Radeon HD 2900 XT 512MB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP VIVO Video Card - OEM
Item#:N82E16814102097
$409.99

probably the vid card im going to get if i go ati dx10. ive read a few reviews and almost every review is saying that the ati cards are performing way better than the Nvidia 8800GTS 640 ones.

aight i added up the cost of everything once more and it came out to be

1365.92

now if i go with the ati dx9 card you can subtract 140 dollars from that total.

that is with the ati vid card and the first power supply in my other post. leaves me some money to buy vista-64bit

XCLIO GREATPOWER X14S4P4 750W ATX12V 750W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CUL, TUV, CB, VDE, FIMKO, DEMKO, NEMKO, SEMKO - Retail
Item#:N82E16817189011
Original Price: $159.99
You Save: $10.00
$149.99

decide im going to go with a higher watt power supply incase i go crossfire with dx10 cards. so add 20 bucks to that total as well.

1385.92